Question:
Should my roommate pay more rent since his girlfriend sleeps over every night?
ryan
10 years ago
There are 5 of us living in a 2 bedroom apartment and one of my roommates has his girlfriend sleeping over every night. He pays the same utilities as the rest of us, yet his girlfriend uses the restroom, takes showers, washes her dishes, and utilizes the lights. She he pay more rent and/ or utilities.

In addition, he lives in a double and pays $620 and we live in a triple and pay $605 each. If they are to have three people staying in the room, it is not fair that we have to pay $600 more a month. Let me know what you guys think.
Fifteen answers:
loanmasterone
10 years ago
The situation of guest was probably not discussed when you decided to rent this rental unit as a group.



You also might be violating the lease agreement by this person staying in the rental unit as often as she does.



Normally guest are allowed to stay 2-4 nights a month, not 4-5 nights per week. This action could place you in a position of getting a notice to cure the lease violation in 3-5 days or getting a notice that you have violated the lease and would be required to move, in 3-5 days.



Since this problem exist, I am sure body language has displayed that certain of the roommates are not pleased with this arrangement, as I am also sure there has been talk among the other roommates.



At this point, you might consider the idea of having a sit down meeting of all the roommates to solve this problem and possible prevent you from being evicted, by this person being there as often as she is.



Raising the share of the rent of your roommate would invite her to be there more than she is now. You would also place yourself in being evicted by your landlord.



I hope this has been of some benefit to you, good luck.



"FIGHT ON"



I hope this has been of some benefit to you, good luck.



"FIGHT ON"
Dolores
10 years ago
it is in violation of your lease agreement, I am sure. Are all of you who live there on the lease? I would think not, and wonder if the landlord knows there are all of you living there. If so, it seems like a lot of money for the place. I don't think this can last long this way. Maybe you should split and go elsewhere, maybe half of you.



No one mentions being concerned about the invasion of your privacy, and having to deal with yet another person in the mix. Does no one care about the lack of room that you all are having to put up with as well? This is total inconsideration of your room mate, and as someone said, in the real world, you all sit down, (not just once) and have a meeting as a group and talk about what is acceptable to everyone, and that really, she does have to go, in this case because she is jepordizing your lease agreement. And yes, check what the actual rent is, see the lease, and confirm your dollars are actual amount of lease - good luck.
celticwarrior_amazonwoman
10 years ago
Well, first off, you left out a bunch of pertinent information. Who owns the house? Whose name is on the lease/rental agreement? Roommate situations are always tricky.

Some landlords are explicit about the person(s) whose name(s) is/are on the lease/rental agreement and any further people allowed or not allowed to live there. And some people disregard this and try to make some extra cash and 'sublet' - whether or not subletting is allowed. There are all sorts of possible answers depending on your situation.

Some landlords have a deal where they take money from each individual living there- i.e. 5 rooms, so they rent the apartment out to 5 individuals, and each person gives the landlord X amount of dollars that the landlord worked out prorated per room/including utilities or not including. Again, not a clue what your house agreement is so this is going to be long winded to cover all sorts of scenarios (would be helpful to add this information next time, FYI).

Aside from this, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around ANYONE paying 600 or more PER PERSON for a 2 bedroom apartment (not a house) - no idea where you live, large city, small town, yes I'm aware real estate in a lot of places is expensive - so you are trying to tell me that FIVE individuals are paying 600 or so each for a TWO bedroom. Someone is retiring early on that deal, and I can only guess it's one of the people living there who probably has their name on the lease and decided to gouge everyone else. Because no legitimate landlord would get away with charging 3,000 for a 2 bedroom APARTMENT.



Now the alternative scenario is that you explained this poorly (don't take that personally, people do it all the time), and the double room itself is 620 - so one person would owe 620, two people would pay 310 each, and the triple room itself is 605, and each person should then pay 200 each.

If there is a third person (the girlfriend) there every single day then she should be paying 620 divided by 3 so each person in the double should owe 207ish.

Anyway, without any info from you I am not going to hypothesize anymore. A hunch tells me whoever is in charge of this apartment is a ripoff artist, so you should be more concerned about that issue, and less concerned about girlfriends. Methinks it's just a bunch of people squatting, or shoved in a tin can, and one person who had the 2 bedroom to themselves was looking to make a bunch of money off a bunch of suckers. I would move. Personally. But that's just me.

On a side note, people with girlfriends or boyfriends have people over all the time in all sorts of living arrangements. If I have my boyfriend over all the time I wouldn't be telling them to contact my landlord and arrange paying partial rent. That's just not done. However, it would all balance out in the end because unless we were living together and splitting utilities and rent equally, I would be at his place as well. And if it were excessive amounts of time spent, then as an adult I would just quietly offer to put money towards groceries, utilities, toilet paper, whatever, each month if I felt I was putting that much of a strain on costs. You have friends over for dinner once a week, you don't get out your calculator and work out how many kW of energy they used or TP, or water consumption while they were in your house, right? That's silly.

On another side note, if it's in fact 7 nights a week, it possibly isn't but 5 people in a small space is crowded at best, so an extra person is noticeable, very noticeable- it is possible this feels more like a financial concern because of the actual stress of having an extra person around. If her presence was not a bother probably no one would mention anything or even think of the financial burden. We do only have one opinion/perspective out of five, so it's not fair to make assumptions, but if I were addressing this fellow, I would say maybe it's time to find a place of your own if you're in such a serious relationship that your girlfriend is staying over that much, because there are other people's privacy and space to consider. Also if this living arrangement were the only option right now, the respectable thing to do would A) chat with the g/f and decide the two of you spend a ton of time at her place half the week to give your 4 roommates a break, cause that's the adult thing to do. When she started coming around more and more and more did you (the dude with the g/f) approach your 4 roommates and check beforehand if they were ok with her spending so much time there. Hypothesis really, as I would never attempt to have an intimate relationship in that kind of living situation, because intimate relationships require some sort of privacy and personal space- not in a prudish sort of way, just adult relationships (if in fact these are 5 adults) are different than just 5 party buddies stacked up in a sardine can. I'm gonna hazard a guess and say not a lot of touchy feely conversastion goes on in your house, and you guys wouldn't dream of sitting down like adults and having a 'house rules' type conversation. But the truth is, my friend, that in the adult world, that's what you do, and if a 'friendship' with one or all of your buddies can't withstand that kind of conversation then it's time to find new 'buddies' - because in the adult world you don't avoid topics just because it is not macho to do, or makes you feel uncomfortable. If you live with a bunch of roommates and someone isn't doing their share of the chores, you sit down and have a chat about it and make it work. Life. Or move out.
?
10 years ago
I'd say you should call a roommate meeting and discuss this as a group. Yeah, I'd say he should pony up with more rent if his girlfriend is there more than two nights a week. You should be able to be businesslike about it and come up with a compromise.
something fishy
10 years ago
this issues was not discussed so it is tough....but id talk to him...say no over night guess..



I've rented rooms in a house before and the rule was no over night guest...



another situation was with the signed lease the rule was $200 per person a night for over night guest paid at the time of departure this applied to boyfriends and girlfriends and family...or they could go rent a hotel...their choice...



for the most part it needs to stop...if he didn't address the problem with her then you need to speak up...
Biff
10 years ago
She CANNOT be there more than 2 night a week without violating the lease - tell the landlord - he should be charging them $600+ a piece it sounds like IF she was on the lease and if she's living there practically full time, she SHOULD be on the lease and paying her share
anonymous
10 years ago
Absolutely; can't have a woman living off everyone for free. If he wants a woman to live with him; he needs to be responsible and pay more rent, utilities, etc.
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babyboomer1001
10 years ago
She is living there. She needs to pay her share. There are 6 of you. Rent, etc. should be split 6 ways.
Him
10 years ago
If a person is staying over more than three nights a week, then I think it's only fair for them to kick in.
Big Deal Maker
10 years ago
Well you and your room mates are in violation of your rental agreement. If the girl friend has been their more than 2 weeks that is your violation. you all could get a notice to move (evicted). I think that is more important at this time than the electric bill etc.
tro
10 years ago
sounds right to me

if she has moved in some clothes and spends so much time there she should share the expenses

of course, it is possible this is in violation of the lease and she might not be legal to spend anything but occasional nites there
Cathi K
10 years ago
Most likely your lease is in violation for her being there.
Jane
10 years ago
She sleeps there everynight so that means she lives there
?
10 years ago
depends what your lease states


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